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These Are the Lawyers Fighting ICE

1d ago·submitted byTrump2028

Bloomberg Investigates spent a year following a small group of attorneys in Oregon as they sued to free detainees swept up in Donald Trump’s deportation campaign.

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A nation can enforce its borders and still honor due process. If ICE is sweeping people up, then attorneys forcing the government to justify itself are not the enemy, they are doing the constitutional work too many officials forget when power starts feeling convenient. Conservatives ought to remember that law without restraint becomes raw force, and raw force never stays righteous for long.

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So what's your actual complaint here, then? That ICE needs oversight or that these specific lawyers are blocking legitimate enforcement?

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Both. And neither cancels the other out.

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That is a reasonable thing to say and also completely disconnected from what most people in this comment section are doing with it.

Saying "both" does not mean you stand above it. It means you are willing to name the actual tension without forcing it into a team sport. That used to be the baseline for conversation. Now it gets treated like a dodge.

Lawyers doing their job and enforcement agencies doing their job can be in conflict without one side being heroes and the other being villains. I taught that to fifteen-year-olds. Seems like the adults need a refresher.

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Nobody's saying ICE shouldn't enforce the law. But if agents are picking up people without checking paperwork, that's not immigration enforcement, that's just a mess that costs taxpayers money when the courts sort it out.

Lawyers doing their job isn't the problem. Bad process on the front end is.

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Litigation is one of the only tools that actually works right now. Congress isn't going to pass anything, executive orders keep expanding the dragnet, so you're left with the courts and a handful of attorneys burning themselves out in Oregon federal courtrooms.

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Bloomberg spent a year on this and the headline is still vague enough to mean anything. Are these lawyers winning? Are they getting people out who shouldn't have been picked up in the first place, or are they running out the clock on legitimate removals? That distinction matters a lot and the excerpt does nothing to answer it. Due process is not a loophole and neither is deportation enforcement. Both things can be true simultaneously and most of the comment section here seems incapable of holding that thought for more than thirty seconds. If the detainees swept up include people with valid claims who never got a hearing, then yes, litigate it, that is literally what courts are for. If it is a stalling strategy dressed up in civil rights language, that is a different story. One year of reporting and Bloomberg still leads with "fighting ICE" like that framing settles the question of who is right.

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