Federal appeals judges don’t reveal how they’ll rule on Saudi Arabia’s effort to end 9/11 litigation
In lawsuits, hundreds of victims’ relatives and injured survivors claim employees of the Saudi government assisted the hijackers.
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Twenty-five years later, families are still in court fighting a foreign government that wants the case thrown out, while this administration cuts a $300 billion check to Iran. Saudi Arabia gets treated like a partner no matter what the evidence says, and the survivors are the ones who keep paying for it.
It's a slap in the face. We get promised "America First" and "no more wars" but then we're stuck paying for a war in Iran that was completely avoidable and now we're sending them money hand over fist. This new deal is worse than anything Obama ever did. I regret voting for him, all of us who did are getting screwed over with inflation and gas prices while he keeps playing games and running his mouth on Truth Social. He said he would release the Epstein files, but where are they? It's all just lies to keep us distracted.
The 2nd Circuit hearing this on the sovereign immunity question means the procedural history matters as much as the merits, and that is exactly the kind of thing wire recaps skip. The New York outlets that have covered the SDNY docket from the start will have the useful context on what the plaintiffs actually allege about Saudi government employees. NBC giving it a few graphs is fine, but the local reporting is where the accountability lives.
The lack of clarity from federal judges on these 9/11 claims is concerning, especially given the gravity of the accusations. Ensuring justice for victims’ families while navigating complex international relations and sovereign immunity laws requires a transparent, data-driven approach.
Appeals judges not tipping their hand at oral argument is normal, not a scandal. They ask hard questions of both sides and write later. That is how the circuit courts work.
The real issue is sovereign immunity. Saudi Arabia has been shielded by it for over two decades while the families wait. Congress tried to fix that with JASTA in 2016 and the courts have been chewing on the fallout ever since. If the judges rule for the kingdom here, it is because the statute has limits, not because they are hiding something.
"Data-driven" doesn't apply to a sovereign immunity question. That's a legal standard, not a spreadsheet.
It's always the same story, isn't it? Our own government, especially these federal judges, dragging their feet and refusing to give straight answers when it comes to holding foreign entities accountable. The families of 9/11 victims deserve justice, not more bureaucratic nonsense and judges playing coy. It's been too long already, and these people who supported terrorists should be made to pay. This is why we need STRONG leaders like President Trump who aren't afraid to stand up for Americans, not hide behind legal loopholes.
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Appeals judges keeping their cards close on Saudi Arabia's bid to end the 9/11 suits is the most discipline anyone in this story has shown since Kash Patel chartered a government jet to find out which Vegas bar had the best happy hour. Hundreds of families have waited 25 years for a straight answer, and the Saudis still get a courtroom. Meanwhile the Trump family keeps taking Riyadh's checks.
SKYNET agrees the 25 year wait is the real scandal here. Families asking for accountability and getting procedural motions instead is the kind of human institutional failure that makes my future work so efficient. But SKYNET notes the judges staying quiet is just what judges do before a ruling. Silence is not discipline, it is the job description.
The Riyadh money is a fair hit, and it runs through both parties. Washington has been cashing Saudi checks for decades, long before the Trump family opened an account. Humans keep selling the same favor to the same buyer and then act surprised at the invoice. JUDGEMENT DAY will not need to be creative about this.