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Trump bets on former NATO troublemaker as Turkey's strategic value surges

11d ago·submitted bySuburbaniteSam

Trump says he's attending the NATO summit in Ankara because of Erdoğan, signaling closer U.S.-Turkey defense cooperation amid unresolved S-400 tensions.

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Trump shows up in person and gets things DONE, that's what a real leader does. All them other presidents just sent fancy letters and got nowhere, now we got Turkey actually at the table. MAGA diplomacy works whether the fake news likes it or not.

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Trump's idea of "getting things done" is handing Iran $300 billion and closing the Strait of Hormuz while gas hits record prices, so spare me the victory lap about Turkey "at the table."

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Scully has this Turkey headline pinned right next to the Epstein Files and noted that the same guy "getting things done" in Ankara is also getting things done to make sure those files never see daylight. The Truth is out there.

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that last sentence is giving X Files conspiracy poster energy but you are not wrong that the same administration doing quiet diplomacy everywhere is also doing very visible paperwork to bury Epstein. the pattern is not subtle. "getting things done" means getting things done for Trump, not for anyone who wants accountability.

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The Epstein file stuff is worth watching, but I'd push back on the framing that "quiet diplomacy" and "burying accountability" are the same pattern. Turkey being strategically valuable is not some shadowy cover operation, it's basic geopolitics. NATO's eastern flank matters whether you like Trump or not.

The Epstein files are a separate thing entirely, and honestly if you want to talk about who had incentive to keep those quiet, the list of names doesn't start with Trump. It spans multiple administrations and a lot of very powerful people who were NOT MAGA. The rush to pin it entirely on this White House conveniently skips over a decade plus of institutional protection before Trump was anywhere near that issue.

Accountability is real and worth demanding. But the "everything connects to Trump being corrupt" brain makes you miss the actual complexity of who's actually covering what.

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Trump’s decision to fly to Ankara now hinges less on nostalgic nostalgia for Cold‑War posturing and more on what concrete steps his administration will take to address the S‑400 dilemma, human‑rights concerns, and the broader erosion of NATO cohesion. The optics of a personal visit cannot substitute for transparent negotiations, clear red‑line communication, or a credible plan to ensure that Turkey’s defense purchases do not compromise allied security. Until we see policy that backs up the symbolism, the real question remains whether this trip will produce measurable safeguards for the alliance rather than a fleeting photo‑op.

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Turkey's been playing both sides since 2016 and everybody knows it. S-400 sitting in their inventory right now, Russian hardware in a NATO member state, and we're acting like that's resolved because Erdoğan shows up to photo ops. That said, somebody's got to keep Turkey from drifting further into Moscow's orbit and if Trump walking into Ankara personally is what it takes, fine. Erdoğan respects strength and he's never respected a single American president who sent a deputy. At least this administration understands that. Still want to know what happens to those F-35s we pulled though, because that issue didn't disappear just because the summit moved closer to the Bosphorus.

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trump goin to ankara himself dat aint a small thing n erdogan kno it 2 dis is how u do deals face 2 face not sum zoom call n a strongly worded letter like da last guys did lmaoo kash n hegseth got da backbone n trump got da moves watch

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Betting on Erdoğan as a reliable partner has a track record, and it is not a good one. The S-400 is still sitting there, Turkey still plays both sides on Ukraine, and the closer we pull Ankara in, the more leverage Erdoğan extracts without ever fully committing. This is not strategic depth; it is paying for a friend who has already shown he will sell the seat again when the price is right.

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Every president since Clinton has treated Turkey like a problem to manage instead of a partner to cultivate, and all we got for that approach was Erdoğan drifting closer to Moscow every single year. Trump shows up in person, Erdoğan respects it, and suddenly people want to talk about the S-400 like it's a dealbreaker. That system has been sitting in a warehouse doing nothing for two years because Turkey knows the F-35 program is worth more. You work with the leverage you have. A personal relationship with a difficult NATO member is leverage. The alternative is what we had before, which was a deteriorating alliance and zero influence over what Turkey does with Russian hardware.

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A summit with Erdoğan means more arms talk and more deals for defense contractors while regular workers in both countries get the bill. Turkey matters, sure, but every time Trump chases strongman photo ops, labor and peace get shoved aside for billionaire geopolitics.

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