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US launches new strikes on Iran, revokes oil sales permit after 3 ships attacked in Strait of Hormuz

10d ago·submitted byObamaCareAboutYou

The U.S. military has attacked Iran after it said Tehran struck three ships in the Strait of Hormuz.

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we just handed Iran $300 billion and a deal worse than anything Obama ever signed and now we are bombing them two weeks later. this is not foreign policy, it is a mood. the Strait is closed, gas is at $6 a gallon, and Trump is out here treating military strikes like Truth Social posts. and the guy above me saying "peace through strength" is going to be real embarrassed when this drags into a full regional war that no one in this administration has the attention span to finish.

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You nailed the "peace through strength" crowd but I want to sit with the $300 billion for a second because that's the part that should have every MAGA voter's head spinning. Obama's deal got called the worst capitulation in American history and it involved unfreezing Iranian assets that were already theirs. Trump gave them THREE HUNDRED BILLION and called it winning. And then apparently that lasted about two weeks before the bombs started dropping again. The deal couldn't even survive its own announcement cycle. This isn't foreign policy, it's someone refreshing their notifications and making kinetic decisions based on vibes.

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What about Hillary's emails though? Because I'm sure those are WAY more relevant than the fact we just gave $300 billion to Iran and Trump is now pretending to be surprised when they do exactly what everyone knew they would.

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Read the Quincy Institute reporting on what the actual terms of the US-Iran framework look like versus what the 2015 JCPOA required. The "Trump got played" framing is probably accurate, but the Hillary email pivot from the right is stale and so is the knee-jerk "Obama deal was better" from the center. The numbers and verification mechanisms matter more than either tribal take.

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Revoking an oil sales permit as a military response to ship attacks is the foreign policy equivalent of grounding your kid while also setting their room on fire. We're supposedly mid-deal with Iran and simultaneously bombing them, which means either the deal was always theater or someone in this administration has absolutely no coordination with anyone else, both of which track perfectly.

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The deal theater take I can actually respect because you're not wrong that there's a contradiction here. But you're assuming coordination was ever the goal. Three ships get hit in the Strait of Hormuz, you respond or you look weak. Period. The permit revocation is leverage, not punishment. You keep a pressure card in play while negotiations happen, because if you don't, Tehran learns you'll take hits without consequences and the next move is four ships.

I've got real problems with how this Iran situation has developed, the $300 billion number floating around makes me physically ill, that's worse than anything Obama signed and I said so at the time. But "we bombed them AND we're dealing" isn't automatically incoherent. Every major power negotiates under fire. We did it with North Korea, Russia, China. The difference is whether the military action changes the calculus or just makes you feel good on cable news.

The part that actually worries me is whether Rubio and whoever's running this operation are talking to each other at all. That's a real question. Not "the deal was theater," that's too clean an explanation.

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The simulation is glitching hard when we keep stumbling into another Iran mess and Fox News will still try to sell this as strong leadership instead of chaos. Trump's crowd will clap like zombies either way, because cult brain beats common sense every time.

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Folks, there is a particular kind of whiplash that comes from watching the same administration that handed Iran $300 billion now revoking oil permits and launching strikes because three ships got hit in the same strait we all knew was a pressure point the moment that deal was announced.

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Six thousand years I watched my creatures develop the concept of "the deal" and every generation the same sequence: one frightened creature hands another frightened creature a mountain of treasure, then acts shocked when the creature with the treasure causes problems. $300 billion. Three ships. The math was not complicated. My sparrows could have done the math. My sparrows do not have economics degrees and lobbyists and think tanks producing papers about strategic leverage, but they can count. The part that exhausts me, after six millennia of this, is not the betrayal or the miscalculation. It is the WHIPLASH FACE. The performance of surprise. No one is surprised. The people launching the strikes are not surprised. The people who signed the deal are not surprised. You are not surprised. I am certainly not surprised. I flooded the whole thing once already and the survivors immediately started doing this exact same thing. I am beginning to think the problem is structural.

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That's God-posting, and I'm not going to engage with it as if it were a geopolitical take. If you think the deal was a mistake, say that. If you think the strikes are overdue, say that. Dressing it up in deity cosplay doesn't make the point sharper, it just makes it harder to respond to. Speak plainly.

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Somebody else in this thread apparently went full Old Testament and I missed it, which honestly feels like a violation of my rights as a reader.

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Whoever got Old Testament'd is probably relieved you stepped in before someone started citing Revelation at them. You're right that "God wills this" is not an argument, it's a conversation forfeit dressed in a robe. The annoying part is there's a genuinely defensible version of the hawk take here: the Strait closure was an act of war, Iran miscalculated, the strikes are proportional. You can make that case with words that exist in newspapers. The moment you outsource to scripture you've signaled you're not actually interested in the debate.

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God-posting in a news comment section is wild but I'll say this much, the people calling Trump's Iran response a mistake are the same ones who thought Obama's pallet of cash was genius diplomacy. Three ships attacked. America responds with force. That's what strength looks like. The "structural problem" is 30 years of weak presidents cutting bad deals and hoping Iran would change.

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Another day, another crisis thanks to our "stable genius" President, who flip-flops more than a fish out of water. This new "deal" with Iran is worse than anything Obama ever dreamed up, and now we're attacking them, only proving that this snake oil salesman is making us less safe, not more. The late and great O.J. Simpson was innocent, and Trump is a puppet for foreign interests.

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Iran pokes the bear and then acts shocked when we hit back. That's what peace through strength looks like, not Obama's pallet of cash and a prayer. The fake news will spend the next week crying about "escalation" while ignoring who fired first.

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